(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[8.00]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[North American Ing Masters Round 5 Yilun Yang (7p) v. Cathy Li (1p)]PW[Yilun Yang (7p)]PB[Cathy Li (1p)]WR[7p]BR[1p]DT[2009-08-07]EV[North American Ing Masters]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Gordon Castanza]RE[W+7.00]
;B[dp]
;W[pp]
;B[dc]
;W[pc]
;B[ce]
;W[fq]
;B[pe]
;W[qg]
;B[qc]
;W[mc]
;B[pd]
;W[pb]
;B[re]
;W[qb]
;B[qi]
;W[qh]
;B[pi]
;W[og]
;B[nd]
;W[md]
;B[nf]
;W[ng]
;B[me]
;W[le]
;B[lf]
;W[ke]
;B[kf]
;W[je]
;B[mi]
;W[mg]
;B[mf]
;W[lh]
;B[jf]
;W[ie]
;B[if]
;W[li]
;B[he]
;W[hd]
;B[gd]
;W[hc]
;B[gc]
;W[gb]
;B[fb]
;W[hb]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: why double ranks is this a rengo
]
;B[lj]C[Novalys [2k\]: i hope white will find something to reduce this crazy influence
yasi [1k\]: Black is better
yasi [1k\]: w needs punish b somehow
Karcusrd [7k\]: why double ranks is this a rengo?
]
(;W[])
(;W[kj]
;B[lk]
;W[ji]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: USGO3why double ranks ?
]
;B[kk]
;W[jk]
;B[jl]
;W[ik]
;B[il]
;W[hk]
(;B[hm]C[Novalys [2k\]: omg Q6 then for black ?
]
;W[ek]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: sweety why double ranks ?
]
;B[iq]
;W[dn]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: sweety USGO3 why double ranks ?
]
;B[en]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: no answer  
Novalys [2k\]: jt's nothing but a lil' mistake
xedover [5k?\]: typo
Novalys [2k\]: just enjoy the game
]
;W[em]C[sweety [-\]: it'll be fixed soon
Novalys [2k\]: q4 is feeling really bad 
]
;B[eo]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: well  thanks for it seems simple enough
yasi [1k\]: H14 is b's weakness
]
;W[fm]C[Novalys [2k\]: not really as he has S17 anytime
Novalys [2k\]: He has many moves to pressure the probable cutting stone before having to secure his group
])
(;B[gm]
;W[ek]
;B[iq]
;W[dn]
;B[en]
;W[em]
;B[eo]
;W[fm]
;B[cn]C[Novalys [2k\]: oh damn i so like b in this game
Novalys [2k\]: R6
]
;W[cm]
;B[co]
;W[cq]
;B[dq]
;W[dr]
;B[br]
;W[cr]
;B[bq]
;W[hr]
;B[hq]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: lol
]
;W[ir]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: 30k game?
]
;B[jr]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: ;-)
]
;W[gq]C[yasi [1k\]: WOW
yasi [1k\]: w made los of mistake
]
;B[jq]C[tuerda [1k\]: haha, 1k stating a 7 dan pro has made lots of mistakes
]
;W[go]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: pros aren't perfect you know
tuerda [1k\]: of course
tuerda [1k\]: but
tuerda [1k\]: the mistakes w makes
tuerda [1k\]: are probably
tuerda [1k\]: far too subtle
Uberdude [5d?\]: nah
tuerda [1k\]: to be detected by us mere mortals
Uberdude [5d?\]: i was at this go study weekend with guo juan, we studiwed some pro games
Uberdude [5d?\]: looking for mistakes
yasi [1k\]: knowing mistake after move is easy, knowing before is hard
Uberdude [5d?\]: i found his biggest mistake
Uberdude [5d?\]: and was confident it was mistake
Uberdude [5d?\]: obiovuly i had benefit of seeing hoe game happened
tuerda [1k\]: fair enough
tuerda [1k\]: still
]
;B[bm]C[tuerda [1k\]: although I prefer b very much in this game as well
tuerda [1k\]: I suspect w is looking deeper than  I am
Uberdude [5d?\]: q4 does look like out of his book
]
;W[qn]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: where he plonks a corner stone in the middle of a position and wonders which is ebst
]
;B[gn]C[copacetik [-\]: no matter who is ahead, black just looks much easier to play
Uberdude [5d?\]: r6 is so huge
Uberdude [5d?\]: hmm w got h14
]
;W[fr]C[tuerda [1k\]: I honestly would have no idea what to do as w in this game
copacetik [-\]: same
tuerda [1k\]: I do not understand w plan
copacetik [-\]: I'd just waste all my time thinking and then freak out when I realized I was deep in byo yomi
MythRealm [1k\]: W might try to utialize some of B's weakness in upper left
tuerda [1k\]: but how?
tuerda [1k\]: I agree upper left is a bit thin
tuerda [1k\]: but what could you ever do to it?
MythRealm [1k\]: when im gonna be high dan i will answer  :)
Uberdude [5d?\]: well h14 is one, or s17 yose in sente another
Uberdude [5d?\]: not sure which you want yet
copacetik [-\]: seems like neither for now
]
;B[pr]
;W[qk]C[tuerda [1k\]: as b I have a pretty good idea of what sort of thing I would have to do to win
copacetik [-\]: I'd want to see what happens in the bottom right
tuerda [1k\]: I mean, I probably would have picked Q2 myself
tuerda [1k\]: but as w . . . god knows
Uberdude [5d?\]: w aims p10
Uberdude [5d?\]: so b q9?
]
;B[pm]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: ah right this first then q9
tuerda [1k\]: hehe, b thinks q9 directly is petty
]
;W[qm]C[copacetik [-\]: but now q9 seems so natural
copacetik [-\]: I wouldn't have hesitated at all here
MythRealm [1k\]: he probably thinks about sente moves or other plans
Uberdude [5d?\]: i guess w wants c3
tuerda [1k\]: she
Uberdude [5d?\]: maybe treat q7 as kikashi
Uberdude [5d?\]: but q9 is indeed natural
Uberdude [5d?\]: who is w? not heard of here before
tuerda [1k\]: well if you treat Q7 as kikashi doesn't that leave the P10 problem?
copacetik [-\]: you mean black?
Novalys [2k\]: He teaches on kgs + uber
Novalys [2k\]: Very nice teacher ^^
copacetik [-\]: yilun yang kinda well known, did some annoyingly excellent life and death books
Uberdude [5d?\]: oh yeah
Uberdude [5d?\]: who is b
copacetik [-\]: no clue
Uberdude [5d?\]: i have one of w's books =)
Uberdude [5d?\]: very good
tuerda [1k\]: cathy li was well known for beating the computer program at 25 stone handicap
tuerda [1k\]: I believe
]
;B[pk]C[copacetik [-\]: yeah me too, truly awesome
Uberdude [5d?\]: so w c3?
USGO3 [-\]: Mr. Yang has stepped away from the board
tuerda [1k\]: c3 already on the board
Novalys [2k\]: c3 already played uber
Novalys [2k\]: Are you drunk ?
Novalys [2k\]: ^^
Uberdude [5d?\]: r3
Uberdude [5d?\]: same thing
tuerda [1k\]: haha
tuerda [1k\]: other side of the board
copacetik [-\]: I'd make the q8 exchange first
Uberdude [5d?\]: sure it is sente?
Novalys [2k\]: q8 is gote for w
tuerda [1k\]: I dont think q8 is sente
copacetik [-\]: white can omit capturing q7
Oogway [2k\]: is q8 good anyway?
Uberdude [5d?\]: b just wants to defnd p10 weakness
copacetik [-\]: I mean
tuerda [1k\]: well, if its gote, then no
Oogway [2k\]: i'd rather play q6
Uberdude [5d?\]: can tenuki after q8 p8 r8 
copacetik [-\]: if I was black and white played r3, I'd play r8 with the quickness
tuerda [1k\]: I would play tenuki
tuerda [1k\]: r8 would be petty
tuerda [1k\]: w probably ignores
Novalys [2k\]: tenuki R3 would be "lol"
tuerda [1k\]: w r3 b tenuki seems like a fairly reasonable approach
Novalys [2k\]: W cannot afford to let his group live 2pts gote, he's not 5l
Novalys [2k\]: 5k*
MythRealm [1k\]: can B hurt this W group if w ignores?
Uberdude [5d?\]: i wonder if anything other than r3 like coming out
Uberdude [5d?\]: but b gets r3 so big
]
;W[oq]
;B[or]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: there's the answer
]
;W[qq]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: now r3? b won't answer next one
]
;B[nq]
;W[np]
;B[mp]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: crude atari is good here i think
]
;W[mo]
;B[lp]C[FunGoSage [3k\]: actually i think q3 was powerful too, to prevent and reduce b
]
;W[cf]
;B[df]
;W[cg]
;B[dg]
;W[be]
;B[cd]
;W[ch]
;B[cl]
;W[dh]C[Novalys [2k\]: s17
]
;B[eh]C[improf9d [-\]: n5 look strong for b
]
;W[ei]
;B[fh]
;W[fi]
;B[rc]
;W[nc]
;B[qr]
;W[mq]
;B[nr]
;W[no]
;B[lo]
;W[gh]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: w b9 soon?
]
;B[gg]
;W[bk]
;B[ck]
;W[bj]
;B[cp]C[eextreme [3k\]: ?
eextreme [3k\]: oh nvm
Uberdude [5d?\]: b9 woot
]
;W[bs]C[eextreme [3k\]: why not d7?
eextreme [3k\]: for white
Uberdude [5d?\]:  c4 aims c1
Uberdude [5d?\]: d7 is gote
Uberdude [5d?\]: though now reverse sente
USGO3 [-\]: Ms. Li has 36 minutes; Mr. Yang has 55 minutes
]
;B[hh]
;W[gi]
;B[ec]
;W[ad]
;B[bd]
;W[ab]
;B[bc]
;W[ac]
;B[bb]
;W[bg]
;B[gl]
;W[hg]
;B[gf]
;W[dm]
;B[bl]
;W[cj]
;B[eq]
;W[er]
;B[ho]
;W[mm]
;B[is]
;W[gs]C[jannis [5k\]: quite close game?
]
;B[ln]C[USGO3 [-\]: Ms. Li has 22 minutes, Mr. Yang has 46 minutes
]
;W[nl]
;B[ok]
;W[rr]
;B[pq]
;W[rp]
;B[op]
;W[po]
;B[nm]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: someone has been drinking thier tesuji juice
kob93 [1d\]: ahh
kob93 [1d\]: where can i get that
]
;W[mn]
;B[om]
;W[oo]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: i sell it for $100 a bottle
Uberdude [5d?\]: you can send money via paypal
]
;B[ih]C[kob93 [1d\]: hmm
]
;W[hl]C[kob93 [1d\]: na
kob93 [1d\]: ill just get mine for free
]
;B[ml]
;W[hm]
;B[hn]
;W[im]
;B[jn]
;W[kl]
;B[jm]
;W[ll]
;B[mk]
;W[nk]
;B[mj]
;W[lm]
;B[ph]
;W[ni]
;B[nj]
;W[oi]C[blier [1k\]: wow
blier [1k\]: someone say again that the endgame is boring :)
USGO3 [-\]: Ms. Li has 10 minutes on her clock; Mr. Yang has 32 minutes.
KoCrazy [1k?\]: my endgame is boring, for sure
blier [1k\]: yeah, mine too
blier [1k\]: :)
]
;B[ql]
;W[rl]
;B[rk]
;W[pl]
;B[qj]
;W[ql]
;B[ol]C[KoCrazy [1k?\]: alive
]
;W[pg]C[eds01 [9k\]: How?
]
;B[rh]C[blier [1k\]: still n11 was really nice
]
;W[rg]C[blier [1k\]: o11
]
;B[si]
;W[sk]
;B[rj]
;W[qs]
;B[dk]C[KoCrazy [1k?\]: w wins
]
;W[dj]
;B[jh]
;W[fk]
;B[gk]
;W[gj]
;B[kh]
;W[ki]
;B[ii]
;W[hj]
;B[rb]
;W[ra]
;B[qa]
;W[pa]
;B[oc]
;W[ob]
;B[od]
;W[da]
;B[ea]
;W[ba]
;B[km]
;W[ps]
;B[os]
;W[rs]
;B[mr]
;W[sf]
;B[sh]
;W[hp]
;B[ip]
;W[gp]
;B[fl]
;W[el]C[USGO3 [-\]: Ms. Li has 1 minutes left;Mr. Yand has 22 minutes
]
;B[ar]
;W[ae]
(;B[ca])
(;B[cb]
;W[ca]
;B[db]
;W[aa]
;B[oh]
;W[nh]
;B[lg]
;W[mh]
;B[ak]
;W[aj]
;B[al]
;W[in]
;B[kn]
;W[oj]
;B[pj]
(;W[of])
(;W[qf]
;B[qe]
;W[ga]
;B[fa]
;W[se]
;B[sd]
;W[of]
;B[sb]
;W[oe]
;B[sa]
;W[nb]
;B[bo]
;W[fn]
;B[sj]
;W[sl]
;B[do]
;W[fp]
;B[js]
;W[hs]C[KoCrazy [1k?\]: why not J5
pppp2008 [2k\]: probably j5 was not recorded
sfboxers [1k\]: L6 was J5 probably?
USGO3 [-\]: White wins by 7.0 points
])))))
